tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8677649049588007585.post5246178750346939652..comments2023-06-18T16:15:22.432+01:00Comments on PL/SQL Challenge: Typo in 17 September quiz leads to rescoring (1385)Steven Feuersteinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16619706770920320550noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8677649049588007585.post-86338794362123724542010-09-21T02:17:01.765+01:002010-09-21T02:17:01.765+01:00I agree with the first couple of comments. I took ...I agree with the first couple of comments. I took it all at face value, checked the facts and thought - this would not compile, so I didn't select it.<br /><br />Perhaps that's a key assumption to be made - unless stated otherwise, the code should be compilable - look out for runtime issues.<br /><br />My morning thoughts assure me there have been quizzes however that do look for compilation issues, but I guess if that's clear in the line of questioning.<br /><br />Like Steven says, testing PL/SQL knowledge, not typos, but that's part & parcel of being a programmer.Scott Wesleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18106937181788036683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8677649049588007585.post-26039156526078056762010-09-20T15:43:38.093+01:002010-09-20T15:43:38.093+01:00I have thought of that, Ryan. The only problem is ...I have thought of that, Ryan. The only problem is that in a number of quizzes, giving you the topic can be a substantial clue in determining the right answer. <br /><br />In any case, a mistake is a mistake. It should not be there and should be irrelevant to the topic for the quiz.Steven Feuersteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16619706770920320550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8677649049588007585.post-90125810843354884332010-09-20T14:47:40.122+01:002010-09-20T14:47:40.122+01:00Steven,
You state that if the problem with a ques...Steven,<br /><br />You state that if the problem with a question is "germaine to the quiz topic" then you will not rescore due to a quiz "mistake". If this is the case, perhaps you could consider displaying the quiz topic when users are taking the quiz.Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01933879578495746805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8677649049588007585.post-47878767100318342762010-09-19T15:15:09.498+01:002010-09-19T15:15:09.498+01:00Zep - you make very strong points. When I have typ...Zep - you make very strong points. When I have typos or mistakes in the quiz, it can lead to all sorts of "distortions" in the scoring. You might puzzle over that typo for a long time, which could reduce your score. Yet I do not want to punish people who do not notice MY mistake. The best solution here is to avoid the need to do this re-scoring. This past week was a bad one. But we had been getting much better and I will redouble my efforts to provide "clean" quizzes. You also suggest highlighting changes that occur to questions. I plan to do this, but I am not sure when it will be available.<br /><br />Jeff and Sterol: I could have taken the position that it was OBVIOUSLY wrong and even intended that way, so no need to rescore. The problem with this approach is that I feel strongly that a quiz should test your knowledge about the topic of the quiz, not about finding things like missing declarations. If the lack of the declaration was germaine to the quiz topic, I would not rescore. <br /><br />Thanks for all your feedback and your patience with my sloppiness.<br /><br />SFSteven Feuersteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16619706770920320550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8677649049588007585.post-14669093452831742782010-09-18T18:41:16.899+01:002010-09-18T18:41:16.899+01:00I also thought it was wrong choice "by choice...I also thought it was wrong choice "by choice" and not "by copy and paste mistake".<br />It was so evident that I didn't think there was any ambiguity.<br />I really don't think a rerank is necessary.<br /><br />Thanks for the sustained efforts in giving us the challenge.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00085640953694926308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8677649049588007585.post-62723567541701506672010-09-18T08:00:04.961+01:002010-09-18T08:00:04.961+01:00I thought it was deliberately left off :)I thought it was deliberately left off :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8677649049588007585.post-71062726199934932962010-09-18T06:06:49.744+01:002010-09-18T06:06:49.744+01:00Steve,
why rescoring? It was clearly incorrect ch...Steve,<br /><br />why rescoring? It was clearly incorrect choice because of missing declaration of the l_value variable. For me it was nice example of test of attention. For example, I ticked a choice with l_value declared as DATE type because I didn't pay enougn attention - my mistake, incorrect choice. I could say - oh, Steven, typo, by mistake you used DATE instead of NUMBER.<br /><br />Even if I know from your explanation that the missing declaration was typo because of copy/paste operation - for me as a contestant this choice is the same "incident" as "l_value DATE".<br /><br />Regards<br />LudoUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03813440070210845954noreply@blogger.com